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Such a treasure to have this interview from just a few years ago with Herb Kelleher. guyraz: “Did you ever get sad or depressed? I mean how did you keep your spirits up?” Herb, if you would: “Wild Turkey helped” itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-built-this-with-guy-raz/id1150510297?mt=2&i=1000427011191